Lost Podcast (AAC): Ep. 1.38 “Live Together, Die Alone”
On this thursday edition of The Lost Podcast: We recap and discuss the Season 2 Finale “Live Together, Die Alone”. We get some LOST new from Carla. We get a special LOST report from Kristy of CityOfAngel.com. We get into some great Listener Feedback, and we get the Season Finale of Jack’s Crackpot Theory of the Week.
Lost Podcast (AAC): Ep. 1.38 “Live Together, Die Alone”
P.S. This episode is a long one, almost 1 hour and 40 min. So enjoy 
May 25th, 2006 at 1:47 am
HAHA! FIRST!
IN your FACE! WOO-HOO!
May 25th, 2006 at 2:46 am
Ummm okay….. o_O
Great Podcast as always. Major props on condensing a two hour show into a one hour recap. What an AWESOME season finale! EMF for the win! So can I get more Gold Flaky Stars for my EM Field Theories? LOL! Actually, the season finale pretty much blew my theory on the crash out of the water, but the EM Field on the island is deffinitly what is causing some of the weird stuff on the island. I can’t wait to hear who won the finale prediction contest. There were a lot of good theories that entered. I’m looking forward to see what you guys have planned for the hiatus. What will you guys do now that the season is over? Hmmmm….. more contests comes to mind. Oh and by the way, any word as to when the next Vid cast will be?
May 25th, 2006 at 3:56 am
couple of things…
they were called “hostiles” not “hellians” by Desmond
Also, the bearing that Michael and Walt were to follow to be rescued was 325 degrees, not 235. At least I’m pretty sure….
May 25th, 2006 at 4:00 am
oh, and the letters were TO Penny, not FROM Penny. BTW, Penny was short for Penelope (as they said on the show, but you didn’t mention it)
May 25th, 2006 at 4:08 am
i haven’t had my coffee this early in the morning yet… so right now i must scream…
OH. MY. GOD!
hasselhoff cried during Idol! wait, no, that’s not what i was oh my godding about…
haven’t listened to your ‘cast yet - that’s my treat whilst at work… but holy hot diggity that was an awesome finale in my opinion…
ah, Pen. ah, Elizabeth. who’s David to everyone else? is Elizabeth reeeeally Libby? my head is swimming - i just needed to post here and catch my breath from those 2 hours (okay, it’s been over for like 9 hours, but still)
okay, off to get some coffee, jack & jay to start my day.
May 25th, 2006 at 4:08 am
loved the eppy - too bad it’s gonna be a long summer till I get to see Lost again. I also wondered if “Penny” or “Pen” has anything to do with Persephone, not in name but, like they are working towards bringing down Hanso. Maybe she’s looking for Desmond and knows what Hanso did on the island, just can’t find it.
May 25th, 2006 at 4:15 am
Did anyone watch Jimmy Kimmel? Hugh Macintyre was supposed to be on it.
great eppe, and great podcast guys! jsut finished listening to it…
May 25th, 2006 at 4:17 am
OK. I haven’t listened to the podcast yet. Saving that for the commute home. Question for you guys… when Mr. Widmore (sp?) showed Desmond the boxes in the car, one of the boxes had an emblem on it. I couldn;t make out if it was a Dharma emblem or something similar to it. Did anyone catch that? If so, what was it? Have we seen that logo before?
Maybe they kept Kate, Jack, and Sawyer because they have 4 toes on each foot. Has anyone looked at their feet?
May 25th, 2006 at 4:23 am
Incredible finale. My husband is mad I didn’t enter the season finale contest because I had a lot right….I didn’t think I did though. I can’t wait to hear the podcast (it’s my treat while my son is napping). And I still think there’s an underwater hatch somewhere, I thought for sure they were going to go to it from that pier. And now who in the hell is Radzinsky (sp)?? Can’t wait to find that one out
May 25th, 2006 at 4:23 am
First off.. wow what an episode. I’m upset there’s no one around me I can talk to about it, so I settle for message boards and podcasts.
A few things I was thinking about:
1. How did the hatch initially go into Lockdown, with Locke and Fake Henry? I mean… it seems like the only way to do it was manually, so who put it in lockdown mode?
2. The big thing… let’s assume Fake Henry knew about the hatch… WHY would he tell Locke that he didnt push the button and the nothing happened? He must have guessed that they didn’t have the failsafe key, so why would he WANT another incident? In the New York Times, one of the producers said if they didn’t have the failsafe, it would have probably sucked up the entire earth into itself.
Seems like a bad thing to me.
3. Why drop some of those names of the others? Zeke is now Tom, and Ms. Klugh is now Bea. Guess we’ll be seeing more of them as the seasons continue.
And wow, Fake Henry being in charge of the others camp? Didn’t see that coming.
Can’t wait to get home to listen to your podacst. And hour and fourty minutes? Yeah, I can’t wait. Nice Job.
May 25th, 2006 at 4:57 am
Great episode!!! I would have ended it on the bags going over thier heads on the dock instead of the crazy stuff with Pen. Is Elizabeth Libby? I think that Elizabeth works for Widmore and gave Desmond the boat so that he would get stuck on the island.
May 25th, 2006 at 5:27 am
I guess I stand alone, but I was disappointed in the finale. Thought that after seeing some truly incredible episodes this season, they could have done better. I think it is interresting how they tied Widmore and Desmond like they tied Sun and Jin. I do not think that Elisabeth is Libby, I think they are twins. Could the David (Husband to Elisabeth) be David Gale?
May 25th, 2006 at 5:43 am
still waiting for it to be posted or put up on iTunes. bet its a great show. Also I cannot wait to hear Jacks Crackpot theory.
May 25th, 2006 at 6:02 am
libby and elizabeth are most likely the same, as libby is a nickname for elizabeth.
May 25th, 2006 at 6:10 am
Desmond’s full name, given in the prison on his discharge, is Desmond David Hume. David Hume was a philosopher in the 1700s. Influenced by another philosopher called John Locke.
David Hume challenged the belief in cause and effect, saying that the following of one event by another is perceived, we don’t perceve any necessary conjoining between the events. that’s an impression that we get. We cannot actually say that one event caused another.
So, we have Desmond David Hume, named after a philosopher that challenged cause and effect, supposing that not pressing the button (the cause) resulted in the effect of downing Oceanic 815.
By naming the character Devid Hume, are the writers telling us that while we might infer a connection, none really exists?
Love the podcast!
May 25th, 2006 at 6:39 am
wow! I liked it! The only bad part was when it was near the end, I knew it was gonna be over soon and it’s gonna be long time until it’s on again : ( Jay and Jack, “here we are now, entertain us” (please!)
(sorry, I got like two hours sleep last night)
May 25th, 2006 at 6:48 am
Great season finale,
what was the song at the very end of the podcast?
May 25th, 2006 at 6:55 am
In reference to the statue I found this posted on fark.com by poster radioriot.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1419122991/103-0653539-6857414?st=%2A&v=glance&n=283155
The book is Headlong Hall by Thomas Love Peacock
“The place is quite a wilderness,” said Squire Headlong: “for, during the latter part of my father’s life, while I was finishing my education, he troubled himself about nothing but the cellar, and suffered everything else to go to rack and ruin. A mere wilderness, as you see, even now in December; but in summer a complete nursery of briers, a forest of thistles, a plantation of nettles, without any livestock but goats, that have eaten up all the bark of the trees. Here you see is the pedestal of a statue, with only half a leg and four toes remaining : there were many here once.”
May 25th, 2006 at 6:55 am
rizinski! wait. we don’t know “Henry Gale’s” REAL name… maybe he’s the renegade “missing” Rizinski! (the “splicer”)
May 25th, 2006 at 6:55 am
Anyone else get the Colossus of Rhodes out of seeing that foot?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes
First thing that came to my mind.
May 25th, 2006 at 6:59 am
Nice episode, I like your Lost podcast the best out of all the Lost podcast out in the ether…
And what was up with the Lion King song in the end? I had to dig up my OST for it and find the track (…To Die For) beautiful and sad at the same time.
Anyways, keep it up and I hope to hear lost and lots of podcast this summer even if it is only you two bickering.
May 25th, 2006 at 7:01 am
ah crap. the brown stain. right. forget my rizinski theory (forgot about that.)
or WAS he the brown stain…. dun duh dunnnnn!
May 25th, 2006 at 7:04 am
I wanted a dramatic score for the season finale podcast, and it was between “…To Die For”, and Mozarts “Requiem”
May 25th, 2006 at 7:19 am
I wonder if the disabling of the magnetic field in the hatch will interfere with the healing conditions of Locke’s legs and Rose’s cancer.
May 25th, 2006 at 7:23 am
I also was completely let down.
Most of the “breakthrough” or answers did not have that WOW factor that I was hoping for.
Out of all of the episodes this season this one really was nothing much.
They certainly did not pull me in and get me amped for next season, like when they took Walt last season.
May 25th, 2006 at 7:45 am
SB,
Here is a link to that complete story by Thomas Love Peacock:
http://www.thomaslovepeacock.net/Headlong.html
May 25th, 2006 at 7:57 am
JACK,
the music in this episode was VERY reminisant of Jerry Goldsmith’s score to Planet of the Apes. This was the most evident during the scene where Desmond was tailing Kelvin along the beach. I have a feeling that Michael Giacchino saw the that the landscape in that scene looked a lot like the opening 45min. of Planet of the Apes! Good Call!
May 25th, 2006 at 8:02 am
Did you guys not pay attention to the letter from Penny? At the end of the letter, it said something about “you’ll always have her” which I assume is about another woman and that woman is perhaps the woman in the picture.
May 25th, 2006 at 8:09 am
YESSSS! just gone up on the itunes feed! WOOHOO! I am in ol’ Ireland and no finale here til’ August! Can’t wait to find out what happened in finale!
*dances round room with glee!*
May 25th, 2006 at 8:58 am
Hey, new to this podcast. I’m stuck here at work and I’m dying for something to listen to, but alas, your podcast is in aac and I’m not allowed to have itunes installed. Anyway you could post it as an mp3, too? Thanks!
May 25th, 2006 at 9:02 am
Love your Podcast.
1. New Drinking Game - re-watch the episode and everytime Desmond says “Brother”, take a shot of tequila.
2. Not to beat a dead horse - There is a scene in a movie starring Mel Gibson and Julia Roberts where Mel is in the back seat of a cop car and hits the cop in the back of the head. The cop pretends to pass out and Mel picks up that he didn’t knock him out. The cop admits that he was faking and Mel hits him again…of course, knocking him out.
The movie was “Conspiracy Theory. ”
3. This is not the only Island. Michael and Walt will be “rescued” but sent to the next phase of their interrogation.
4. Charlie is pure evil…..what’s up with him not telling Claire or anyone what happened? He just strolls back on the scene like nothing happened. He also pulls some serious puppet strings that sets up John Locke and Desmond.
Great season. Wednesday is now back to regular ole Hump Day : (
May 25th, 2006 at 9:52 am
“Hugh McIntyre” from the Hanso Foundation — interviewed by Jimmy Kimmel (who is clearly working from a script). Very odd. He says they discontinued funding for the Dharma Initiative in ‘87. The rest seemed mostly fluff.
May 25th, 2006 at 10:25 am
Great episode - great podcast. So many new questions. I am so glad that Super Kate is not conspiring with the Others she told all about the fake beard in the Medical Hatch..
Jack - I loved your idea that the statue that Sayid et al see is a FOOT HATCH…hilarious!
What is that Hurley Bird, anyway?
Why was Charlie being so odd when he got back to the beach camp after the hatch went KABOOM?
If the Others are the GOOD GUYS…who are the BAD GUYS?
Okay - the season is over…time to dig into the Lost Experience, finish reading “Bad Twin”, pre-order the Season 2 DVDS and McFarlane Toys LOST Action Figures and hunker down for the summer. I’m so glad we’re all Lost together.
May 25th, 2006 at 10:39 am
I saw the Hugh McIntyre interview too. The fact that Dharma was discontinued in 1987 seemed like the only new information we received. So who is dropping food and supplies if Dharma no longer exists?
May 25th, 2006 at 10:53 am
plus, charlie acted all weird and freaky when he told locke about desmond. maybe thanks to the “vaccine” that’s turning him into an “other”?
May 25th, 2006 at 11:22 am
I found it kind of interesting at the end where Jack, Kate and Sawyer, all with their “Daddy Issues,” are watching Michael leave with Walt. Even though it was wrong to set them up, he was willing to do anything for his son.
May 25th, 2006 at 11:34 am
Hey guys,
I know you appreciate the people calling in to your podcast. My question would be is why do you need to play each one even if they do not add anything at all other than they are weak and shaking from a television show? You guys are funny and I enjoy how you talk about the show but neve take it too seriously. However, wow some of the calls you play are painful to listen to.
That may be an unpopular view but Im only being honest.
I read on the Fuselage that Lost lost 40% of its viewership since the opening episode this season….whoah.
Chappy
May 25th, 2006 at 11:38 am
The language being spoken at the end of the episode was Portuguese, not Russian, just to let you guys know
May 25th, 2006 at 11:54 am
Ok Seriously HELP. What movie was the music at the end of the podcast in? I am having a major Brain Fart. It’s at the tip of my tounge trying to put the music into the correct movie.
May 25th, 2006 at 12:09 pm
Just letting you know that the Arctic watchers were speaking Portuguese. Portuguese from Brazil. I lived in Brazil 12 years (my first 12 years, even though I was born in Norway) and I recognize the language anywhere.
May 25th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Hugh was lying most likely about Dharma ending in 1987. And remember kiddies Miss Widmore said if you have the money and the determination…you can find anybody.
May 25th, 2006 at 1:47 pm
err… whatsup with the Lion King music at the end?
May 25th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
[…] Also, Jay and Jack pointed out some of the similarities the Colossus of Rhodes, one of the seven wonders of the world, in their latest podcast. Posted by Colin on May 25th, 2006 Tags: Season-2, Mythology, Lost […]
May 25th, 2006 at 2:54 pm
Jay and Jack…my podcasting heroes…
I just listened to this podcast…again and I just wanted to say that you two have come a long way since your first episode! Your timing, your commentary, your banter, Jay’s straight guy to Jack’s wise-cracker routine is really very funny. You should be very proud of the great stuff you both do! You two get along so well (or at least during the podcast you do) - I couldn’t imagine Jay ever getting grounded by Daddio-Jack!
“Jay…clean up your room or you’re grounded!” shouts Daddio-Jack as he enters Jay’s room.
“What?” replies Jay in his signature high-pitched, shrill voice, “Forget it, Jackie. I’m way too bitter to clean my room, plus I’m busy, I have a life, unlike you!”
“Uhh..okay!!” says Daddio-Jack with a big grin on his face and nary a hair on his head.
“Tally for me!” screeched Jay
“What about some gold, flaky stars for me?” asks Jack
“Heeheehee” giggles Jay
“Ha Ha Ha” laughs Jack
Suddenly a creak from the floorboard is heard by both and in the doorway of the room stands Mrs.G. She is not amused.
“You are both grounded! No LOST today! ” She says with a stare sterner than the fake Henry Gale
Jack, head bowed, limps to his room. Jay turns to his CD player and hits play on the ‘Lost’ Soundtrack, Locke’s theme. Tears begin streaming down his cheeks. His mother closes the door as she leaves. Jay pounds on his desk
“I’ve done everything you wanted me to do. So why did you do this…to me?!”
Suddenly the power light of his sleeping Mac turns on….
End scene
You guys are truly the best!
Kevin B
Calgary, AB, CANADA
May 25th, 2006 at 3:51 pm
how do i put these on my i pod ?? this is the first pod cast i have ever dwn loaded?? Plus what about some other lost theory websights
May 25th, 2006 at 3:54 pm
How come nobody cared about a plane that dropped supplies. Shouldn’t they try to signal the plane dropping supplies??
May 25th, 2006 at 3:59 pm
Theory about the statue - Maybe it’s not the foot of a man.
I was reminded of the sphynx… but I could be wrong.
May 25th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
cauwel3…
Search for the Lost Podcast Network in iTunes. You can subscribe to that and get a bunch of podcasts on one channel. But beware, once you listen to Jay and Jack you won’t want to listen to any another Lost podcast again!! They are truly the best!! (Unless Ryan and Jen come back, but thats another story…)
May 25th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
Kevin B—that was…truly…the funniest thing I’ve read all day. Indeed, if I had the power of giving out gold, flakey stars–I would reward you with thousands!
May 25th, 2006 at 6:16 pm
When I saw ‘the foot’ I thought it might be the remains of a statue of Apollo. In the Pearl Station Orientation weren’t they told to take the Apollo Ferry? Maybe I misheard that…
May 25th, 2006 at 7:44 pm
ok, I figured it all out… Season one and two are just the setup for season three: Jack and Sawyer compete for SuperKate in the Island Love Connection!
(ok sorry, I still need to get some sleep!)
May 25th, 2006 at 7:45 pm
Oh man I’m going to buy a Super Kate figure and a Desmond figure and have a foot race yeh!
May 26th, 2006 at 4:23 am
gigglechick - who said that radzinski was the brown spot that was absolutely thelling the truth? Just because that’s what Kelvin said, doesn’t mean much - remember, he was lying to desmond about leaving the hatch. Why would he tell the truth about everything else!
Expanding on that theory, and tying into what Jack has been saying: maybe it shows that the others (”hostiles” are former dharma, since radzinski/H.G was helping Kelvin push the button). Just a thought…
May 26th, 2006 at 4:33 am
Good Morning Guys! I found myself screaming at the T.V. during the finale (kind of how Locke screams at the hatch before the light comes on) - “UNDERWATER HATCH!!! WHERE IS THE UNDERWATER HATCH?” Well Jack there’s always next season- but I’m pulling for ya man! You’re only about a bizillian tallies behind Jay now. You should keep your tallies instead of gambling them away on a whim. Tallies are sacred and not to be taken lightly! I listen to the podcast at work on midnight shift and it keeps me awake. So you guys have to keep doing podcasts or I fear I might fall asleep and lose my job! No pressure! Keep up the great work. I loved that last song at the end of the finale recap show- what was that?
May 26th, 2006 at 6:50 am
Ok, the plane went down because of electromagnetism, right, but airplanes are mostly made of aluminum, which isn’t a magnetic metal, right? Not sure that I’m right, but I thought I’d throw that out there. Love the podcast.
May 26th, 2006 at 9:04 am
Hey All,
Just wanted to share two quick observations/ thoughts:
1. Did anyone actually hear the “Hurley Bird” say “Hurley”. I did. It said his name twice. Then, in the scene when Jack outted Michael’s plot to the rest of the party of five, another voiced whispered “James” or “Jim” and Sawyer heard that. Trust me, go back and watch that scene.
2. Did anyone notice that in the ending scene when we see those two guys speaking Russian/Portuguese? One of those guys was Jack Shepard/Matthew Fox in makeup and hair! Go back and watch that too.
3. Hey, did anyone think that Charlie seemed a bit odd? I can quite put my hand on it, but something seemed sinister about him (once again) in this episode. I dunno….
Thanks Jay and Jack for the super awesome podcast. Jay you are HELLA-CUTE! If you’re ever in the Washington DC/ Maryland area look me up ;)!
Love you guys and thanks for doing this for all us LOSTIES on the mainland,
-Sherri
Largo, MD
May 26th, 2006 at 9:08 am
I’d agree with you anonoymous, but what about the stuff on the plane that IS magnetic? Like the engine? Maybe the electromagnetic pull pulled the plane apart…which is kind of what it seemed like to me. I don’t know!
May 26th, 2006 at 11:05 am
Jay,
You have to give Jack a tally for his comment about Dasmond killing Calvin. He totally said that in a previous podcast quite some time back. I kept that in the mental rolodex just to see if that would be true and yes sir, he is correct!
-Sherri
May 26th, 2006 at 5:20 pm
Eko Saved Charlies ass by taking that belt off earlier
*Interesting observation*
May 26th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
The proof is in the teeth. Freeze frame the shot of the Portugese-speaking guy on the phone with Penny. His mouth is agape and the bottom row of his teeth on his left side are a tad crooked. I’ll bet if someone finds a close up of Jack with his mouth agape, the teeth will be the same, proving that Matthew Fox is playing both roles.
May 26th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
Proof that Man #1 is not Jack’s twin. He is played by Len Cordova.
http://imdb.com/name/nm0502653/photogallery
May 26th, 2006 at 7:16 pm
now i can sleep.
thanks.
May 27th, 2006 at 1:14 am
WHATS UP WITH CHARLIE ACTING SO WIERD!!!!!!!!
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